mortgages are a great bargain under the tax code. >> it's extraordinary. >> are they going to get rid of the deduction? mortgage deduction? >> i don't think so. it by far impacts middle america more than anyone else. if they tweak it, it will be on the edge. but listen, mortgage interest deduction has been around over 100 years. i don't believe it's going anywhere. >> demand outstripping supply in your last conference call. you said that. even better now? >> it is. >> is there a housing shortage, sir? >> absolutely. >> there is? >> it's worse than any of us imagined. >> what states? >> let's look at new york city as an example. there are no inventory. >> people are knocking on people's doors who do not have signs. i'm not kidding. >> i know. i know that to be the -- we tell them to do it. they're literally trying to convince you to sell. now, the seller's got to convince themselves that they can actually get the price they want. and that is starting to change. i mean, you're seeing extraordinary price increases. we have markets where prices are increasing 25%, 30%, and they're still b